hite House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles has described the public breakdown between President Donald Trump and billionaire Elon Musk as “very troublesome” but ultimately just a “little hiccup” for the administration.
Speaking on the latest episode of Pod Force One, released on Wednesday (July 9), Susie Wiles acknowledged the high-profile fallout between the former allies.
“It was a great thing when it was a great thing”
Wiles reflected on the value Musk brought to the administration in its early days, calling him “fascinating” and praising his contributions during the presidential transition.
“He knew things we didn’t know. He knew people and technologies that we didn’t know,” Wiles said. “It was a great thing when it was a great thing, and had a very, I think, a very troublesome ending.”
“The president was very generous to him, and Elon had a lot to contribute to us,” Wiles added.
“I don’t understand it” — Wiles on the split
When asked what caused the fallout, Wiles admitted she wasn’t sure.
“I don’t understand it. I don’t know,” she said. “I liked working with Elon. He’s fascinating and sees the world differently. He’s not like the average person—but unfortunately, things didn’t end well.”
Musk-Trump feud over ‘One Big Beautiful Bill’
The fallout began because Musk opposed Trump’s key piece of legislation, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.
After Trump gave Musk a warm farewell at the White House in May, the SpaceX CEO quickly went public with criticism of Trump’s bill.
Musk called the bill a “disgusting abomination” full of wasteful spending, and said it would worsen the federal deficit. Trump suggested Musk was upset because the bill cut green energy tax credits, but Musk denied this.
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The clash grew when Musk launched a new political group called the America Party. Trump brushed it off as “ridiculous,” calling Musk a “train wreck.”


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