LoC tension live: Even as firing continues, Nobel Peace goes to Indian and Pakistani

2. 33 pm: Even as firing continues, Nobel Peace prize goes to Indian and Pakistani

Even as the firing continued in the LoC, Indian Kailash Satyarthi and Pakistan's Malala Yousafzai win the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize.

Kailash Satyarthi, 60 years old, is the 8th Nobel Laureate born in India. He is a human rights activist from India who has been at the forefront of the global movement to end child slavery.

Malala Yousafzai is the Pakistani teen who campaigned against the Taliban's destruction of girls schools was shot in the head by the group in 2012. Now 17, she has continued to speak out in support of women's rights.

1.55 pm: Pak's desire for peace should not be considered as weakness, says Sharif

Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif today chaired a meeting of the National Security Committee, to discuss the ceasefire violations along the Line of Control.

Addressing the meet, Sharif said: "Pakistan's desire for peace should not be considered (by India) as its weakness."

The three services chiefs, DG ISI Zaheerul Islam, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif, Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar, Information Minister Pervaiz Rasheid and Advisor on National Security and Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz also attended the meeting, Pakistan's Dunya News reported.

1.20 pm: Was this the largest attempt by Pak rangers to push infiltrators?

Speaking to Firstpost's reporter Sameer Yasir, who is on the ground at RS Pura, a BSF officer, posted in the sector was of the opinion that this could have well been the biggest push by Pakistani rangers to infiltrate terrorists inside the Indian territory this year, an attempt which largely failed.

“It was perhaps the biggest number of terrorist group that wanted to infiltrate towards our side, but we kept a watch on them and didn’t allow them to entre our side,” the BSF officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said.

Dressed in salwar kameez, they would make rounds of several villages along the International Border in Pakistan, this suspicious movement was noticed many times by soldiers of BSF posted on frontline Border Out Posts (BoP’s), they keep a strong vigil on their movement.

“It was to push these terrorists inside Indian territory that the rangers from the Pakistan side tried to divert the attention and fired indiscriminately on the villagers,” the BSF official added.

12.00 pm: Govt holds top level meet to discuss LoC violations

Union Minister of State for Home Kiren Rijiju this morning met with NSA Ajit Doval and the Director General of BSF DK Pathak to discuss the prevailing situation along the LoC and the International Border with Pakistan.

While there was a lull in firing across the border since last night, the BSF has decided to adopt a wait and watch approach, with sources telling NDTV that they have not yet decided to hold a flag-level meeting with their Pakistani counteparts.

11.00 am: Nawaz Sharif to chair national security meet on LoC violence

Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif will hold a meeting with the National Security Committee (NSC) regarding the situation along the Line of Control in Jammu.

The meeting will be attended by service chiefs, chairman joint chiefs of staff committee, defence minister, interior minister, finance minister and information and national security adviser with high security officials, Geo TV reported.

The committee will review the situation emerging in the face of Indian aggression along the LoC and the Sialkot Working Boundary.

The committee will be briefed on the losses caused by the Indian shelling and Pakistan's army response to the New Delhi's violation of ceasefire.

08.00 am: Ready to respond to any aggression by Pak, says BSF

The Border Security Force on Friday said it would adopt a wait and watch approach on Pakistan's aggression along the border saying it was ready to respond to any attack by its neighbour, saying they were 'closely monitoring the lull in firing overnight'.

BSF sources have told NDTV that there are no plans as yet of holding any flag meeting with Pakistan.

"There are no plans of a flag-meet as yet. It's too early to talk of de-escalation".

07.20 am: Sharp decline in firing along border

Pakistan rangers targeted four BSF posts in Kathua district of Jammu overnight, in what comes as a sharp decline in ceasefire violations by the neighbouring country along the International Border.

"Pakistan is deliberately targeting our villages and civilians by heavy shelling, which continued even till Thursday morning. We are only firing at Pakistani border outposts, which is unfortunately causing civilian casualties there," Pathak told The Economic Times. 

Updates for 9 October end

6. 45 pm: US worried about India-Pak LoC ceasefire violations

According to ANI reports, the heating of the India-Pakistan Line of Control with increased firing and targeting of civilians, has caused concern in Washington with US officials stressing on the need of restraint on both sides.

"We are concerned about any violence along the line of control. We continue to encourage the governments of India and Pakistan to engage in further dialogue to address these issues," State Department Spokesperson, Jen Psaki said.

The spokesperson also told ANI that US policy on Kashmir has not changed. "We still believe that the pace, scope, and character of India and Pakistan's dialogue on Kashmir is for those two countries to determine," she added.

4. 05 pm: PM Modi asks Congress not to play politics over national security

While addressing a rally, Prime Minister Narendra Modi congratulated the army jawans on the border for showing how strong India is. "Today, when bullets are being fired on the border, it is the enemy that is screaming. Our jawans have responded to the aggression with courage,” Modi said.

Hitting back at Congress, Modi said, "Do not play politics over national security, don't demoralise the troops." The Prime Minister said that India never politicised the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks and this shouldn't be politicised either.

Meanwhile, hitting out at Congress for taking on PM Modi on the issue of ceasefire violations by Pakistan, BJP termed criticism by the opposition party as ‘unfortunate’ saying the sensitive issue should not be ‘politicised’.

“Congress party has ruled the country for many number of years. It is expected to respond in a more mature manner and in a responsible manner,” Union Minister and senior BJP leader Venkaiah Naidu said on the sidelines of a function here when asked to comment on Congress’ attack on the government over the issue of ceasefire violations by Pakistan.

3. 10 pm: J&K chief minister called UNMOGIP a 'toothless organisation'

Voicing out his opinion on the LoC ceasefire violations, Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Omar Abdullah said that stopping talks with Pakistan is not the solution. "Govt has said shelling will be answered by shelling. But I think nothing can be solved without talks," he said.

The J&K chief minister called UNMOGIP a 'toothless organisation', and said that it has never been able to stop any violence.

"If Pakistan wants a suitable situation then it can only happen if the guns go silent," he added,

3.00 pm: No flag meeting till Pak stops firing, says Amit Shah

Addressing a rally in Wardha, BJP leader Amit Shah said that government won't stand Pakistan's treachery. "When there was Congress government, Pakistan used to start and end firing. But now though Pakistan begins the firing, India finishes it," he said.

The BJP leader said that Pakistan is begging for a flag meeting, but India has said that no flag meeting unless firing stops.

12.45 pm: Pakistan will retaliate too, says official

A foreign official of Pakistan told Times Now that Pakistan will retaliate too.  "We are capable of retaliating too," she told the channel.

Pakistan PM Advisor Sartaj Aziz told CNN-IBN that there has been unprovoked firing from India's side for several days. "Pakistan is for peace and wants India to understand that," he added.

This comes after defence minister Arun Jaitley said that the Indian forces would be forced to give a 'befitting' reply that would make the cost of Pakistan's 'adventurism' too high.

11.22 am: We will make the cost of Pakistan's adventurism unaffordable, says Jaitley

Defence minister Arun Jaitley is out of hospital and is all guns blazing against Pakistan.

In comments to the media, his first official interaction since being discharged from AIIMS, Jaitley decried 'unprovoked' firing from Pakistan along the Line of Control, and said that Indian forces would be forced to give a 'befitting' reply that would make the cost of Pakistan's 'adventurism' too high.

"Pakistan, with these attacks, has clearly been the aggressor", Jaitley said, adding that our armed forces have only one option: to respond adequately and defend our territories".

The defence minister also ruled out talks with Pakistan until the firing stopped, and said that there was a connection between increased firing and infiltration bids from across the border.

10.22 am: Modi won't let India down, says Rajnath Singh

In the face of continued firing along the Line of Control, Indian union home minister Rajnath Singh has assured media that PM Modi 'will not let the nation down'.

"The PM is closely monitoring the situation along the border", Singh said in comments to the media. "He doesn't need to say anything on this as our jawans are giving a befitting reply to Pakistan. We are very satisfied with the response we have been getting".

PM Modi has been busy on the campaign trail in both Maharashtra and Haryana, but has reportedly been kept briefed on the situation in the border areas.

In his first comments on the incident he told media that 'everything will be fine soon'.

9:40 am: Five civilians injured in overnight shelling by Pakistan

At least five people were injured in overnight shelling by Pakistan Rangers on the international border in Jammu and Kashmir, police said.

"Five civilians have been injured in Pakistani shelling during the night. Two people were injured in Ramgarh sector of Samba district while three injured in Kanachak area of Akhnoor sector of Jammu district," a police officer told IANS.

All the injured have been shifted to government medical college (GMC) hospital in Jammu city.

With these injuries, the total number of injured in Pakistani shelling has gone up to 60.

8.36 am: Three jawans injured in fresh firing

Three BSF jawans have been injured due to Pakistani shelling in the RS Pura sector, according to the latest reports coming in.

The incident had taken place at about 6.15 am today, according to a report on Times Now.

In addition to the jawans, five civilians were also injured in overnight firing along the border.

8.05 am: Onus of creating positive environment is on Pakistan, India tells UN

India and Pakistan have sparred at the UN over ceasefire violations along the LoC with India making it clear that its armed forces are "fully ready" to respond to "provocation".

India also said that the onus of creating a positive environment for normalisation of relations is on Pakistan.

War of words between the two countries over the situation at the Line of Control took place on Tuesday at the UN General Assembly where India said that it was a "matter of deep regret" that Pakistan violated the ceasefire, in which eight people were killed and several others injured.

"It is a matter of deep regret that Pakistan has violated the ceasefire and their unprovoked firing has led to loss of civilian lives on Indian side...Firing on innocent civilians by Pakistan will only hamper normalisation of relations.

"The onus of creating a positive environment is on Pakistan which is utterly failing to do so," senior official at the Indian Mission to the UN, Devesh Uttam said on Tuesday in his right of reply to Pakistan's remarks, further adding that India rejected all untenable and unsolicited remarks made by Pakistan.

7.40 am: Two more killed in Pak firing; death toll now at 8

The death toll in the firing after escalation of ceasefire violations by Pakistan for over a week rose to eight with the killing of a woman identified as Shukuntla Devi and her daughter-in-law Poli Devi. Fifteen more people have been injured in the firing taking to 75 the number of injured so far, officials said.

Government sources also said that India will continue to respond to Pakistan on the ceasefire violations according to the situation along the border and there won't be any flag meetings.

7.05 am: Pakistan continues to violate ceasefire; 7 Indian sectors targetted

If one thought Prime Minister Narendra Modi's stance that the firing along the Indo-Pak border would end soon, it certainly doesn't seem so.

Overnight, Pakistan has targetted seven Indian sectors that include 60 BSP border posts along the International Border, leaving three injured in Kanachak, news channel NDTV reported.

With the government coming under attack from the opposition parties over its handling of the string of ceasefire violations by Pakistan, Prime Minister Modi had said "everything will be fine soon" on the border.


Updates for 8 October end

9.30 pm: Pakistan resumes firing on BSF posts in three sectors

Firing from the Pakistani side has resumed at 8 pm targetting three Indian sectors of Akhnoor, RS Pura and Hiranagar in Jammu. The BSF has been retaliating with adequate fire.

9.16 pm: Pak PM Nawaz Sharif calls for meeting over border issue

According to Times Now reports Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has called for a meeting over the situation in LoC on 10 October.

Pakistan will also be assessing damages in the region due the the firings.

8.24 pm: Fresh firing from Pakistan side in RS Pura sectore, BSF retaliates

There has allegedly been fresh firing from the Pakistan side in the RS Pura sector of Jammu and Kashmir today evening, report Times Now.

The incident, according to reports, took place around 8 pm and the BSF too allegedly retaliated.

6.44 pm: Everything will be fine soon, says PM Modi on Pak ceasefire violations

When Prime Minister Narendra Modi was asked about the situation at the border with Pakistan, he said that everything will be fine soon.

Meanwhile, launching a counter attack on Congress for criticising the BJP over the issue party President Amit Shah said, "Earlier also there was firing from across the border and now also there is firing from across the border. Earlier, Pakistan used to start and also finish the firing. Now, Pakistan starts the firing but it is the Indian military which finishes it."

6.36 pm: Fully ready to respond to Pakistan provocation, India to UN

India and Pakistan have sparred at the UN over ceasefire violations along the LoC with India making it clear that its armed forces are "fully ready" to respond to "provocation".

India also said that the onus of creating a positive environment for normalisation of relations is on Pakistan.

War of words between the two countries over the situation at the Line of Control took place yesterday at the UN General Assembly where India said that it was a "matter of deep regret" that Pakistan violated the ceasefire, in which eight people were killed and several others injured.

"It is a matter of deep regret that Pakistan has violated the ceasefire and their unprovoked firing has led to loss of civilian lives on Indian side...Firing on innocent civilians by Pakistan will only hamper normalisation of relations.

"The onus of creating a positive environment is on Pakistan which is utterly failing to do so," senior official at the Indian Mission to the UN, Devesh Uttam said yesterday in his right of reply to Pakistan's remarks.

The Indian official stressed that everyone must be "assured" that India's armed forces and paramilitary forces are "fully ready and they will respond to provocation".

The Indian diplomat was responding to comments made by Pakistan's Permanent Representative to the UN Masood Khan when he raised the issue of Jammu and Kashmir during the 21st plenary meeting of the General Assembly here yesterday.

Khan said that long-standing festering issues "cannot be swept under the carpet," reiterating Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's address to the UN General Assembly last month that the core issue of Jammu and Kashmir has to be be resolved through negotiations and in accordance with the wishes of its people.

5:00 pm: PM says no question of bending to Pakistan's tactics, says report

The Prime Minister has reportedly told the National Security Advisor that there's no question of succumbing to Pakistan's tactics, and the armed forces and border security forces will continue to have a free hand in dealing with it.

CNN-IBN quotes sources as saying that the PM has said there is no question of engaging in talks with Pakistan while the firing is on.

4:00 pm: Rahul tells Modi: Easy to promise tough stand on Pakistan, but difficult to deliver 

And it's not just in Pakistan, that Prime Minister Modi is coming in for criticism from. Even Congress Vice President Rahul Gandhi made the most of the opportunity to criticise the government's handling of the situation.

"During his campaign he promised a tough stand against Pakistan," he said, asking what had happened to the promise.

The Congress Vice President noted that Modi had found it easy to make the promises but found it difficult to deliver on them.

But it's not just Modi facing the heat. Across the border, Imran Khan has been targetting Nawaz Sharif on Twitter:


3:00 pm: Pakistani media channels being gagged?

Times Now is quoting sources as saying that the Pakistani media has been muzzled from showing the damage inflicted due to Indian troops retaliating fire along the India-Pakistan border.

The reason? The channel says that the government has apparently been rattled by the response of the Indian troops and is therefore preferring that the damage not be shown.

2.41 pm: #CowardModi trend on Twitter in Pakistan

#CowardModi trended on Twitter as users in Pakistan accused India of violating ceasefire on Eid. Users took pot shots at Prime Minister Narendra Modi, raking up 2002 Gujarat Riots and asking him to explain his decision to refrain from wearing a skull cap at public function.

"#India exclusively presents first premier of the world summoned for killings & murders in #US that's #CowardModi ONLY good at ruining #Peace," tweeted @RJSadiaSattar. Some of the other tweets also criticised the Indian army, claiming troops were responsible for the violence in the valley.

"#ShameOnIndianArmy they have used rape and molestation as a weapon to humiliate the locals #FreeKashmirFromIndia #CowardModi," tweeted @Mariam_Jamali.

1.52 pm: Bilawal Bhutto likens India to Israel, brings up Gujarat riots Pakistan's new kid on the block Bilawal Bhutto, who has already generated mass outrage by saying that every inch of Kashmir belongs to Pakistan, has in a new tweet attacked both the Indian government and Prime Minister Narendra Modi for LoC violations that he says are perpetrated by Modi.

In an obvious reference to the Gujarat riots, Bhutto also told Modi that Pakistan unlike his 'victims' were capable of retaliation.

The Pakistan government has been consistently saying that the Indian government is engaging in 'unprovoked' firing along the Line of Control.

In a statement the Pakistan Foreign Minister said,

“For seven days now, the Indian security forces have been firing and shelling across the Line of Control and Working Boundary. Yesterday was Eid day but the Indian forces, in complete disregard of the festive event, carried on the fire and put four innocent lives to death. The Eid day when Muslims celebrate the spirit of sacrifice, the Indian forces played havoc with the lives of four families whose dear ones embraced Shahadat. It is sad that the Indian government has not been able to restrain its forces despite strong diplomatic protest by Pakistan. We call upon Indian government to immediately cease fire and shelling and help us preserve tranquility."

12.30 pm: MHA calls for high level meet as fresh firing kills two

The MHA has reportedly called for a high level meet as violence along the LoC showed every sign of escalating.

The home secretary, IB chief, BSF representatives and Border Management representatives are reportedly due to attend.

The MHA has already determined that there will be no flag meet with Pakistan, until a cessation of firing along the border, and is reportedly waiting for Pakistan to make the first move.

"There is no question of a flag meet with Pakistan", Army Chief General Suhag said in comments to the media.

India's response to the ceasefire violations is reportedly being monitored at the highest level with the NSA Ajit Doval seeking hourly reports from the ground. Even Defence Minister Arun Jaitley, who was recently discharged from AIIMS, is monitoring the situation along the border.

"If we hit them hard, they will come to the negotiating table themselves. We are not going to sit back and suffer for the sake of talks," a BSF official told The Times of India.

Pakistan for its part, has blamed India for the violations.

"The government of Nawaz Sharif has been exercising utmost restraint and responsibility. We call upon the Indian government to immediately cease fire and shelling. It is sad that the Indian government has not been able to restrain its forces despite strong diplomatic protest by Pakistan," Sartaj Aziz, Advisor to the Pakistan Prime Minister, said.

12.15 pm: Pakistan UN envoy asks Indian govt to observe ceasefire

According to Times Now reports, the Pakistan envoy in UN  has called upon the Indian government to observe the ceasefire along the Line of Control.

Pakistan has already registered a protest with the Un monitoring mission, saying that India has been resorting to unprovoked attacks.

However the UN had reportedly told Pakistan that the issue needed to be resolved diplomatically.

11.42 am: Two people dead in fresh firing in Samba

Two people have been killed in fresh firing in Samba, marking the first time that casualties have been recorded in this region.

This takes the death toll since an escalation of violence began, to seven.

The BSF is reportedly retaliating strongly, and the DG BSF, asked people to stay inside their homes.

India has been told not to seek any flag meeting as of yet, reports said. CNN-IBN said that the government is waiting for Pakistan to make the first move.

11.30 am: Firing still on in seven sectors along international border 

Fresh firing is on in seven sectors along the LoC, according to fresh reports coming in from the area.

CNN-IBN reported that firing was on in a number of areas including Hiranagar, Samba and Arula.

Further updates were not immediately available.

11.05 am: Pakistan is Shaitanistan says BJP as fresh firing kills 1

Even as India vows not to back down until Pakistan stops firing along the Line of Control, BJP spokesman Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi said that Pakistan had become 'Shaitanistan' in escalating border tensions.

His comments come in the wake of news that fresh Pakistani firing had killed one woman and injured another six in Samba.

Meanwhile MoS PMO Jitendra Singh has visited affected border areas to take stock of the situation.

10.59 am: Air Chief expresses concern over deteriorating border situation

Air chief Arup Raha has said that India is looking for a quick resolution to the situation with Pakistan, where escalated firing has killed a number of civilians.

"This is a serious issue, the government is taking it seriously,we want a quick resolution", he said in comments to the media.

9.45 am: Indian forces asked to retaliate, reject talks with Pakistan

Indian forces have been asked to retaliate heavily to firing from Pakistan and reject talks until all firing stops at the border in Jammu and Kashmir, NDTV reported, quoting top government sources.

Indian forces have already begun firing in response to repeated Pakistan attack on BSF border outposts.

According to a report in the Hindustan Times,

India unleashed “massive retaliation” on Tuesday all along the 200-kilometre long International Border. The Indian attack targeted 37 Pakistani border posts, resulting in around 15 deaths, more than 30 injured and serious damage to outposts manned by the Pakistani Rangers, intelligence sources told HT.

"While India has no intention of escalating the situation on the Jammu border, there is no question that the Pakistanis will be allowed to go without punishment,” said a senior South Block official quoted in the HT report.


 LoC tension live: Even as firing continues, Nobel Peace goes to Indian and Pakistani

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According to an Indian Express report, BSF officers also said they would not hold any flag meetings with Pakistan to lower tensions. This is an unusual move because India has held flag meetings with Pakistan every time the ceasefire was violated in the past.

BSF DG DK Pathak told the Express, “This time we are not going to speak to Pakistan nor ask them for a flag meeting. During the last flag meeting on August 24, it was decided by both sides to maintain peace along the border. They started (shelling) again after 35 days, and that too on Dussehra. We have decided to be aggressive and will retaliate effectively.”

9.30 am: Fresh firing in Samba sector kills 1, injures 6

Fresh firing in the Samba sector this morning has killed one person and injured 6 in the Chilyari village of the Samba sector.

Tensions showed no signs of easing, with firing continuing this morning, after a massive Pakistan attack which targeted 60 Border Out Posts and 25 border hamlets with heavy mortar shells in Jammu sector and LoC areas in Poonch district, leaving 12 people including a BSF jawan and a Jt Commanding Officer injured.

Pakistan's night-long mortar-bomb attacks and rattle of heavy guns have sent thousands of residents in border villages scurrying for cover. They fled their mud-houses on buses, tractor-trollies and bullock-carts to safer places in Jammu leaving behind deserted hamlets.

Military officials of India and Pakistan reportedly discussed the cross-border firing over the hotline but there were no signs of a solution.

Meanwhile the air chief Arup Raha reportedly expressed his concern at the 'deteriorating situation' along the international border with Pakistan.

8.30 am: Pakistan targets 60 border outposts

In escalating ceasefire violations that continued on Tuesday night, Pakistani troops targeted over 60 Border Out Posts and 25 border hamlets with heavy mortar shells in Jammu sector and LoC areas in Poonch district, leaving 12 people including a BSF jawan and a Jt Commanding Officer injured.

A woman was killed and 11 persons were injured in the incident.

Extending the ceasefire violations to new areas, Pakistan Rangers shelled border outposts (BoPs) and villages in Samba and Kathua along with Jammu during the night and the firing was continuing till this morning.

A woman was killed in the shelling in Jaladi village in Samba while 11 people, including three BSF personnel, were injured, a BSF spokespersons said today.

So far seven persons have been killed and nearly 70 injured in the escalation since October 1 with over 16,000 people migrating to safer areas in these districts.

"Pakistani Rangers again resorted to unprovoked mortar shelling and heavy firing on BSF posts all along International Border (IB) since 2000 hours last night," the spokesman said.

"As many as 50 BSF BoPs were affected by the fire from Pakistan side," he said, adding that firing and shelling targeted areas along IB in Arnia, R S Pura, Kanachak and Pargwal sub-sectors along IB in Jammu and Samba districts.

The three service chiefs met Defence Minister Arun Jaitley in Delhi and are understood to have discussed the prevailing security situation on the border.

Pakistani and Indian troops along the International Border(IB) and Line of Control (LoC) in J and K exchanged heavy fire on Tuesday night in which a Junior Commissioned Officer(JCO) and two other armymen were injured.

According to a senior Army official, shelling carried out by Pakistan along the LoC in the Sabjian area of Poonch district left one JCO and two armymen injured. The injured have been hospitalised, the official added.

Fresh firing from the Pakistani side was also reported in Kathua district along the IB apart besides in Jammu and Rajouri districts, police and BSF sources said.
BSF and Army troops are retaliating to the firing, the sources said.

"There was fresh ceasefire violations by Pakistan at Banwat and Hamirpur along LoC in Poonch. The firing started at 1620 hours with Small Arms and Mortars", Defence Spokesman Lt Col Maneesh Mehta said.

"Own forces responded effectively and appropriately. No casualty till last report came in," he added.
In another ceasefire violation earlier, Defence Spokesman Lt Col Maneesh Mehta said Pakistani troops opened fire with small arms in Balnoie forward belt along LoC in Poonch
district around 1420 hours.

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Updated Date: Oct 10, 2014 14:40:23 IST