As it happened: Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton spar over taxes, terror in 1st US presidential debate

Sep, 27 2016 IST

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    Trump interrupted Hillary a lot

    As the debate ends, it is important to note that while Hillary Clinton interrupted Donald Trump once or twice during the debate, Trump interrupted her almost everytime she spoke and almost on every issue. It is clear that he was a lot more careless when it came to following the rules of the debate.

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    Closing statements

    Hillary: I am reaching out to all Americans. We need everybody to make our country stronger. We need your talents and your energy. I know the huge responsibility of protecting out country. I will stand up for families against powerful interests. I will do everything to make sure you have jobs.

    Trump: We're going to make America great again. We don't take care of our veterans...we take care of illegal immigrants. Our inner cities are a disaster. I will do more for African Americans and Latinos. We cannot take four more years of Barack Obama.

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    "We have to repeal Obamacare," Trump said. "It's probably going to die of its own weight," he added. "She wants to keep Obamacare and she wants to make it worse," he said.

    "My social security payroll contribution will go up," Hillary said.

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    On national debt

    "I'm going to create tremendous jobs," Trump said. "We have a tremendous machine...to do that, we're taking back jobs. We're not going to let our jobs be taken by other countries," he added. "We have people who are political hacks making trade deals with other countries," he said.

    "We have the greatest businesspeople in the world. We need those to make negotiations...We have to use our great people. We will create an economic machine the likes of which people have not seen in many years," Trump added.

    "It's important to recognise that he has been criticising our governments for decades," Hillary said, adding that Trump had used the exact words against Ronald Reagan. "I pay for everything I am proposing," Hillary said.

    "When I talk about how we are going to pay for education, we are going where the money is," she said. "There is no evidence that will diminish our growth...we have to go back to making the middle class stronger," she added.

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    On Aleppo

    "Aleppo is a disaster...it has fallen," Donald Trump said. "And a lot of this is because of Hillary Clinton. By fighting Assad, she realised that he is much tougher and smarter than she thought," he added.

    "Assad has alligned with Russia," Trump said. "We're backing rebels but we don't know who the rebels are...if the rebels overthrow Assad, we might have someone worse than Assad," he said. "Wait till you see what happens in the coming years," he said.

    "We've had millions of people leave Syria. I think we could strike a deal and make it clear to Russians and Syrians that a no-fly zone was for the good of the people," Hillary said.

    She added that she was not going to allow violent people to come into the country but she was not going to be unreasonable on immigration.

    "She will defeat ISIS? We should have never let ISIS happen in the first place," Trump said. "Our country is so outplayed by Putin and Assad," he added.

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    "Bernie Sanders said you have bad judgement...and you do," Trump said.

    "You should ask Bernie Sanders who he is supporting," Hillary said. "He has also said you are the most dangerous person to run for President," she said in response.

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    On Islamic State, terrorism

    "I am encouraged that there is an effort by the Iraqi army, supported by Kurdish forces...but I will not support putting American forces in Iraq...I don't think that would be smart to do...I think that would be a red flag for ISIS to re-constitute itself," Hillary said.

    "I am hopeful that the hard work that the American military advisors have done will pay off," she said. "Syria will remain a hotbed of terrorism until the civil war aided by the Iranians and Russians remains," she added.

    "We had Mosul...but when she took everyone out, we lost it," Trump said. "Whatever happened to the element of surprise? I've been reading about retaking Mosul for about 3 months now," he said.

    "Mosul is going to be a wonderful thing and Iran should write us a thank you," Trump added. "We're going to retake Mosul and you know who's going to be the beneficiary? Iran," he said.

    "The big winner is going to be Iran," he said.

    "Donald is once again denying that he supported the Iraq invasion," Hillary said.

    "Wrong...wrong...wrong," said Trump in response, giving us all a déjà vu.

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    On Trump's allegation of this election being rigged

    "I will look at it (the election result) at the time," Trump said. "First of all, the media is so dishonest and corrupt...The New York Times wrote an aritcle...I think the people can see through all the lies," he said.

    "Millions of people are registered to vote who shouldn't vote," Trump said. "She shouldn't be allowed to run for the Presidency based on what she did with emails," he said.

    "I will keep you in suspense," Trump said.

    "This is horrifying," Hillary said in response. "When the FBI concluded there was nothing wrong with the emails, he claimed the FBI was rigged," he added.

    "There was a time when he didn't get an Emmy for his show and he concluded that the Emmy was rigged," she said.

    "We've had free and fair elections and we must accept the results," she said. "It just shows that you're not up to doing the job."

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    Donald Trump first candidate to not reveal his tax returns: Hillary

    "He is the first candidate to run for President in the last 40 years who has not revealed his tax returns," Hillary Clinton said. "He has not paid a penny in federal income tax," she added. "We have undocumented immigrants who are paying more tax than a billionaire," she said.

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    Clinton Foundation is a criminal enterprise: Trump

    "Everything I did as Secretary of State was in furtherance of our country's values," Hillary said, adding that the Clinton Foundation was a world renowned foundation. "Clinton Foundation made it possible for 11 million HIV+ people to get treatment," she said.

    "Clinton Foundation is a criminal enterprise," Trump said in response. "Why don't you give back the money you took from other countries?" he said.

    "We at the Clinton Foundation spent 90 percent of all the money donated...We have the highest rating from international watchdogs," she said. "I'd be happy to compare what we do with the Trump Foundation," she added.

    "A 100 percent (of Trump Foundation) is spent...I don't buy boats with it," Trump said.

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    Donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger: Hillary

    "Those stories have been largely debunked...I have a feeling it was her campaign that did it," he said, referring to the sexual assault allegations against him. "I didn't even apologise to my wife because I didn't do anything."

    "I think they either wanted fame or their campaign did it," Trump said, adding that Obama and Hillary incited violence on many occasions. "It was all fiction and lies."

    "Donald held a number of rallies where he said he could not have done those things to women because they were not attractive enough," Hillary said.

    "I. Did. Not. Say. That," said Trump.

    "Donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger," Hillary said. "America is great because America is good," she said.

    "Nobody has more respect for women than I do," Trump said in response. "What isn't fictionalised are the 33,000 leaked emails," he said, raising the same issue he has raised over the last two debates.

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    Hillary gave us ISIS: Trump

    "She's been doing this for 30 years...why the hell didn't you do this for the last 30 years?" Trump said, referring to Hillary's plans for the economy. "For 30 years, you've been in a position to help," Trump added.

    "The problem is that you talk...but you don't do anything. 6 billion dollars was missing when you were handling the state department," Trump said.

    "What he said about the state department has been debunked," Hillary said in response.

    Hillary then talked about a time when Trump was getting sued for racial discrimination and then raised the issue of Trump insulting Alicia Machado again. "I am happy to compare my 30 years of experience with your 30 years and I'll let American people make that decision," she said.

    "Well, I think I did a great job....If we could run our country like the way we've run our company, we would have a country to be proud of," Trump said. "She gave us ISIS," he said.

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    India growing at 8%: Trump

    "When you inherit the level of economic catastrophe which President Obama inherited...President Obama doesn't get the credit he deserves," Hillary said. "I propose that we invest from the ground up...not the top down," she added.

    "I just met some high representatives of India...they are growing at 8 percent," Donald Trump said.

    "Our country is stagnant...we've lost out jobs...we're not making anything," Trump said. "I pass factories that were thriving 25 years ago...and because of the bill her husband signed, it's horrible what has happened to these people," he said.

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    On economy

    "When middle class thrives, America thrives. My plan is based on giving middle class more opportunities....I think we can compete with high wage countries....I want to do more to help small businesses," Hillary Clinton said. "I sure do want to make sure that women get equal pay....I want more technical education...I want to make college debt-free."

    "We're going to go where the money is," she further said. "We are going to have the wealthy pay their shares...that is a plan that has been analysed by independent experts who say that will create 10 million new jobs," Hillary said, adding that Donald Trump's plan would cost them jobs.

    "She can say all she wants about college tuitions but the rest of the public is going to be paying for it," Trump said. Trump said that a lot of countries which the US had been protecting were paying up after Trump raised this issue since last year. "We have to tell Japan, Germany and South Korea in a very nice way that they need to help us out," he said.

    "Our jobs are sucked out of our economy because of the deals her husband signed," Trump said, adding that there was going to be a lot of free trade under his leadership. "We're going to cut business taxes massively...we are going to start the engine rolling again," he said.

    "I have repeatedly said that I will not raise taxes," Hillary said in response.

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    Mike Pence tweets

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    Hillary outsmarted by Putin: Trump

    "Of course I condemn their interference in our elections," Trump said. "I don't know Putin...Putin is not my best friend," he said.

    "She has been outsmarted by Putin," said an aggressive Trump.

    "I find it ironic that he is raising nuclear weapons," Hillary Clinton said, adding that he had been very vague about the use of nuclear weapons.

    "Wrong," came the response from Donald Trump.

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    Russians engaging in espionage against Americans: Hillary on Wikileaks

    "We will not have open borders...we will have secure borders but we will also have reform," Hillary Clinton said. "We trade more energy with our neighbours than we do with the rest of the world combined," she said.

    "The Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans," Hillary Clinton said on Wikileaks. "Then they have given that information to Wikileaks...17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed that they did this for the elections," she said.

    "She wants open borders...people are going to pour into our country," Donald Trump. "We are going to stop radical Islamic terrroism in the country. She won't mention the words and neither will Obama," he said.

    "We have a country with a tremendous number of nuclear warheads and she's playing chicken," Trump said.

    Hillary Clinton said that Donald Trump would rather have a puppet as a President. "You're the puppet!" said a dramatic Trump in response.

    "We have never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our elections," Hillary said, going back to the topic of Russia.

    "She has no idea which country is doing this," Donald Trump said.

    "She doesn't like Putin because Putin has outsmarted her in every way," Trump further said, attacking Hillary Clinton.

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    Pretty much sumps up Trump on immigration

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    Debate moves to immigration as things get a bit aggressive

    "She wants to give amnesty, which is a disaster...We need to secure our borders," Donald Trump said. "Drugs are pouring in through the border. We have no country if we have no border," he added.

    "The biggest complaint they have in New Hamshire is heroine...it's poisoning the blood of their youth...We have to keep the drugs out of our country. We cannot give amnesty," he said.

    "I want to build a wall...we need the wall," Trump said.

    "I don't want to rip families apart...I don't want to see the deportation port in action in our country," Hillary said. "You would have to have a massive law enforcement forces where they would be going from schools to businesses rounding up people," she said. "It is an idea that would rip our country apart...I voted for border security in our nation. But I wanted to put our resources where they are needed: getting rid of any violent person."

    "I think we are both a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws," Hillary said.

    "I had a very good meeting with the president of Mexico," Donald Trump said. "Hillary Clinton wanted the wall...Hillary Clinton voted for the wall in 2006."

    "I had voted for border security..." Hillary said. "Wall," Donald said, interrupting Hillary.

    "Donald used undocumented labour to build his tower," Hillary said.

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    On abortion issues

    "So many states are putting very stringent decisions on women," Hillary Clinton said. "Donald has said he is in support of defunding planned parenthood...I will support planned parenthood. He said women should be punished...and I just could not be more opposed to that kind of thinking," she added.

    If you want to find out more about where the candidates stand on abortion, click here.

    "I think it's terrible what Hillary is saying. I think it's terrible if you can rip the baby in the ninth month of pregnancy...that's not acceptable," Donald Trump said in response. Hillary responded and said that is not what she said.

    "I've been to countries where governments either forced women to have abortions or forced women to have children," she said.

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    Here's where both the candidates stand on guns.

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    On Second Amendment rights

    "I support the Second Amendment," Hillary Clinton said. "But I also believe that there should be constant regulation...When I think about what we need to do, we have 33,000 people who die because of guns," she said, adding that there need to be background checks.

    "I see no conflict between saving people's lives and the Second Amendment," she added.

    Referring to a specific case in the Supreme Court, Donald Trump said that Hillary Clinton was extremely upset with the decision taken in that case. Hillary responded by saying that she was upset because of the "toddlers" who were killed.

    "In Chicago, which has the toughest gun laws, there is probably the most amount of gun violence," Trump said. "We are going to appoint justices that will feel very strongly about the Second Amendment," he added.

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    On Supreme Court appointments

    "When we talk about the Supreme Court, it raises the central issue of this election: What kind of country are we going to be?" Hillary Clinton said. "The Supreme Court needs to stand on the side of American people, not on the side of the wealthy," she said, adding that the Supreme Court needed to stand on the side of the women and for LGBT rights.

    "I feel that it is important that we not reverse marriage equality, we stand up and say the Supreme Court should represent all of us. The kind of people we nominate will stand up for the rights of the people," she added.

    "The Supreme Court is what it's all about. It's imperative that we have the right justice system," Donald Trump said. "We need a Supreme Court that is going to uphold the Second Amendment which is under absolute siege," Trump said, adding that he does not think that Hillary Clinton will win.

    "I feel the justices I am going to appoint will be pro-life and will protect the Second Amendment...They will interpret the Constitution the way the founders wanted it to be interpreted...It's all about the Constitution," Trump said.

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    And we're off...

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    Will Mike Pence tweet in support of Trump?

    In the last debate, Pence had not posted any tweet till the very end of the debate. It will be interesting to see whether he tweets in support of Trump today.

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    (Updates begin for 20 October.)

    Third and final debate to begin soon

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    This pretty much sums up all of Trump's trash talk during the debate.

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump face off Monday in one of the most consequential presidential debates in modern US history, with up to 100 million viewers to tune in for the hotly-anticipated political duel.

With polls tightening into a virtual dead heat, the stakes could hardly be higher: the first woman to win the White House nomination for a major US party, against a New York tycoon turned reality star who has upended the political establishment.

Commentators call it a clash of the titans: a 90-minute endurance test between Clinton the Democrat, arguably the most experienced US presidential candidate ever, and Trump the Republican, perhaps the least experienced nominee for a major party.

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in file photos. AFP

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in file photos. AFP

The outcome of this political show for the ages could shape the last six-week stint of an election that has deeply polarised the country and left Trump fighting to overcome allegations of bigotry and sexism.

Wall Street stocks tumbled Monday in anticipation of the first of three live, televised debates before the November 8 election.

A decisive win for Clinton could see her pull ahead. A strong performance from Trump could keep the vote competitive or even possibly see him pull out in front.

Hosted at Hofstra University on Long Island, a mere 60-minute drive from Manhattan and chaired by NBC Nightly News anchor Lester Holt, the debate may attract an audience closer to the size of the Super Bowl when it kicks off at 9:00 pm (0100 GMT Tuesday), beamed live around the country.

The questions will revolve around three themes: "America's direction, achieving prosperity, and securing America."

Both candidates, the most disliked US presidential rivals in contemporary history, have spent days furiously prepping and honing which strategy they believe will inflict maximum damage on the other.

Sweet spot

Clinton, 68, is nothing if not experienced with four decades of public service tucked under her belt -- a veteran of 34 primary debates, having run and lost for president in 2008 against Barack Obama.

"When the spotlights are at the brightest and the pressure is the most intense, that's when she brings her A-plus game," said Clinton running mate Tim Kaine.

Trump, the 70-year-old maverick billionaire, has refused to play by the rules. He has never held public office but stormed through the primaries, crushing his 16 opponents with a populist, say-it-how-it-is message that has resonated among Americans fed up with establishment politicians.

According to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll, 53 percent of Americans voters do not believe that Trump is qualified to be president, lacking the temperament and knowledge.

The Republican Trump is unrivalled at hogging the limelight, but considered weak on policy.

But while Clinton is masterful when it comes to policy details, she suffers from perceptions that she is untrustworthy and dishonest.

And Trump's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway says for all Clinton's proficiency it has not translated into campaign success.

"She's smart, but this isn't her sweet spot," she told MSNBC, calling her boss "a natural debater" by comparison.

"I have been in politics for 28 years," she said. "And I think Donald Trump has gifts and skills that sometimes escape typical politicians."

Polls tied, stocks tumble

Monday's target will be the estimated nine percent of American voters who are still undecided. Can the Democrat win their minds, if not their hearts? Can Trump persuade them that he has the gravitas to lead?

Clinton will no doubt aim to seize on Trump's toxic campaign trail rhetoric, using his words to paint her rival as a divisive demagogue.

But if Trump remains disciplined and focuses on issues, he could earn credibility among college-educated whites, according to veteran Democratic campaign strategist Joe Trippi.

"I do expect Donald Trump to be more genteel and a calmer force tonight, and I expect her to try to bait him out," Trippi told Fox News.

Stocks skidded on Wall Street with the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropping 0.9 percent to 18,094.83 amid unease over the debate.

The latest opinion polls have Clinton and Trump virtually tied: 41 percent each according to the Washington Post-ABC poll and 43 for Clinton to Trump's 42 percent according to Quinnipiac University.

The Quinnipiac poll found that voters expect Clinton to win the debate 41 to 32 percent, and that 84 percent said they intend to watch.

Clinton's campaign has expressed concerns of being held to a double standard, saying the bar is higher for her while Trump stood to win praise for a merely adequate performance.

"All that we're asking is that if Donald Trump lies, that it's pointed out," Clinton campaign manager Robbie Mook told ABC.

Trump has already stated that he does not believe Holt's role as moderator is to police each candidate.

Obama, who is likely to be working in the White House with the debate "on in the background," believes Clinton needs to show Americans what motivates her to want to be president, spokesman Josh Earnest said.

"He obviously believes that she's got a strong case to make," Earnest told reporters.

With inputs from AFP


Published Date: Sep 27, 2016 06:31 am | Updated Date: Oct 25, 2016 11:21 am