" There are some people in America that don’t like planning. They think planning is a bad word. I say to them, ‘OK, you tell me the name of one successful organization, institution, corporation or community that doesn’t plan for the future,’ "
" When people start really thinking about how a natural approach to the management of water, the cleaning of air, and so forth, can actually reduce costs and increase value at the same time ... I just think that it’s inevitable that we’re going to see this as a much more preferred approach going forward. "